Comments on: Mellinger Optical Survey in SkyView https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/index.php/2009/12/16/mellinger-optical-survey/ SkyView News and Discussion Fri, 05 Feb 2016 20:46:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.2 By: Tom https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/index.php/2009/12/16/mellinger-optical-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-43823 Fri, 05 Feb 2016 20:46:48 +0000 http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/?p=90#comment-43823 In reply to Han k.

Dear Han,

The limit to the size of the region you retrieve is a characteristic of the size of projection used. The default Tangent projection will show a maximum of one hemisphere of the sky, and only reaches that as the image size approaches infinity. Other projections can be used to see more of the sky in a single image. When you specify the size of the image in degrees (with SFACTR above), you are specifying the size in the projected coordinates, not on the sphere. For small maps where distortions are minimal these will be the same, but as you try to get very large images substantial distortions are inevitable. Other projections,
Car, Zea, Ait may be more appropriate for very large images.

With regard to use of the Mellinger data: I am not a lawyer, but I’m dubious that the license we have from Dr Mellinger permits the kind of use you envisage. The Copyright notice indicates:

Copyright: Axel Mellinger. Permission is granted for use in research and personal, non-commercial use. Please contact Axel Mellinger for permission for other use.

This copyright still applies even if you get the data through us.

Regards,
Tom McGlynn

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By: Han k https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/index.php/2009/12/16/mellinger-optical-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-43821 Fri, 05 Feb 2016 19:52:18 +0000 http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/?p=90#comment-43821 Also my excuse for the wrong spelling of dr. Mellinger firstname Axel.
Han

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By: Han k https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/index.php/2009/12/16/mellinger-optical-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-43820 Fri, 05 Feb 2016 19:49:14 +0000 http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/?p=90#comment-43820 Tom,
Don’t worry, I will not use the copyright protected data of the Mellinger survey directly but proving an interface to Skyview.

The advantage of 8 bit or 16 bit FITS will be the smaller file size and therefore increased download speed.

I have noticed that the field size of the downloaded FITS files is limited to about 142 degrees. Not a problem, just an observation. This is the web command line:
http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/pskcall?return=fits&sampler=Lanczos&Survey=MELL-R&VCOORD=0,0&PIXELX=1000&PIXELY=1000&SFACTR=300

Thanks again,
Han

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By: Tom https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/index.php/2009/12/16/mellinger-optical-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-43807 Mon, 01 Feb 2016 16:00:41 +0000 http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/?p=90#comment-43807 In reply to han k.

Thanks for the comments…

While the input data may have byte values, resampling can cause the computed pixels to be non-integers, so even with
survey that start with integers, floating point outputs0 are possible. You are correct that with the default nearest neighbor sampling the user will only get integer values, but SkyView does all it’s computations in double precision. We could think about an option where the user could scaling to integers.

Your idea that we put the actual range of the data in the FITS file makes a lot of sense. We already provide that in the web page output, so we’re already computing it. We’ll put that in the next revision thanks.

You may wish to check with Alex Mellinger regarding use of his survey in your program. His data is not in the public domain.

Tom

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By: han k https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/index.php/2009/12/16/mellinger-optical-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-43804 Sat, 30 Jan 2016 17:25:02 +0000 http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/?p=90#comment-43804 Many thanks to Alex and your team for providing this very nice survey.
I suggest to have two things in Skyview improved. The data in the FITS files is type floating, “BITPIX = -32”. however the data is in range 0 to 255 as defined in “COMMENT Units: Byte-scaled intensity” It would be more efficient to make 8 bit FITS files “BITPIX = 8” An other major problem with Skyview FITS files is that the data range is not given. ESO and MAST provide this in the header data as:
DATAMAX = 19596 /Maximum data value
DATAMIN = 1168 /Minimum data value
This additional FITS header data would be most useful in processing Skyview images in my planeterium program HNSKY. The Mellinger survey will be available in the program from today.

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By: strony www lublin https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/index.php/2009/12/16/mellinger-optical-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-17701 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 13:44:12 +0000 http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/?p=90#comment-17701 woow thats all i say 😀

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By: telescope reviews https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/index.php/2009/12/16/mellinger-optical-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-2946 Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:10:35 +0000 http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/?p=90#comment-2946 wow, digital all sky mosaic images are amazing.

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By: Tom McGlynn https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/index.php/2009/12/16/mellinger-optical-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-2644 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:45:06 +0000 http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/?p=90#comment-2644 In reply to mark wilson.

SkyView’s hardware was not directly affected by the recent problems. Some related systems had issues, including the server which holds the database used by our blog.
Regards,
Tom

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By: mark wilson https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/index.php/2009/12/16/mellinger-optical-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-2573 Wed, 02 Feb 2011 23:25:49 +0000 http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/?p=90#comment-2573 Hello, is the SkyView RAID system working right now?? although I’ve seen no update on the blog regarding this, aside from the previous update posted.

Thanks in advance, also looking forward to more medium resolution samples

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By: Jodi Albertini https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/index.php/2009/12/16/mellinger-optical-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-1306 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 04:41:16 +0000 http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/blog/?p=90#comment-1306 What an ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE IMAGE. Thank you NASA for you continued efforts. Images like this are enough to keep my 7 year old son completely intrigued with Space!

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